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involving white police officers and black men. in each of those cities from dallas to minneapolis, to new york's times square, we saw police officers marching right alongside those protesters and defending the protesters' right to free speech despite some of the angry anti-police sentiments being expressed by some of those activists. but at 9:57 eastern, 8:57 pacific, it became clear that something else was happening in dallas. as we watched live, we suddenly saw a crowd go from marching to running in panic. we had no idea what was happening. but less than three minutes later, thanks to the brave, brave work of shawna jackson, a photographer with dallas fox affiliate kdfw, we learned why that crowd was scattering. and as jackson rounded a corner literally running toward gunfire with her camera, we came to the horrifying realization that we were suddenly looking at live pictures of multiple law enforcement officers wounded or

dead. we're looking back in dallas, texas. [ bleep ]. >> this is disturbing. i'm not sure what we're seeing, but it looks from this vantage point like an officer down. we are not sure. we are not sure. this is my speculation as i look at the screen. stand by on that. i don't know what i'm seeing. this is the control room trying to tell me they have a better vantage point. so i'm sorry for the speculation. the police are working on -- >> oh, my god. >> that's -- i mean we're all seeing this together. this is not clear. >> and then we said we will not be showing the pictures of dead bodies on "the kelly file." witnesses report hearing as many as 20 gunshots in rapid succession, comparing the initial pandemonium to a, quote, war zone. and our fox photographer was not the only one running toward the gunfire. multiple officers began converging on the fallen despite the fact that they were likely

still in the line of fire, and that was only the beginning. our local affiliate informed us that police were now dealing with at least one shooter, armed with a rifle. and a short time later, we confirmed the worst. as we watch our local coverage now, the exchange between the reporter on scene and the anchors in the studio, our local affiliate, kdfw is reporting confirmation of two police officers shot. two police officers shot tonight in dallas, texas. stand by. >> and of course we know it was far worse than that. the scenes and the information from the authorities only got more disturbing as the evening progressed. it was initially believed that there were multiple shooters described as snipers, triangulating their targets from elevated positions. chaos reigned supreme. today we learned that it was one man, one shooter, though it is unclear if other co-conspirators helped planned this attack. it was not just sniper fire. a horrifying video shot by a

witness showed the gunman ambushing an officer from behind a pillar. this is disturbing to watch. before pumping multiple rounds into him from point blank range. a little after midnight central time, we learned police had cornered the gunman in a parking garage and were negotiating with him in between exchanges of gunfire. the shooter, a 25-year-old army veteran who we are not naming, was wearing tactical gear and a bulletproof vest. he told authorities he acted alone, that he was not affiliated with any groups. he said he was upset about black lives matter, about the recent police shootings, and that he wanted to kill white people, especially white law enforcement officers. with negotiations failing, the suspect was presented with the choice of coming out peacefully or facing the consequences. he refused to give up. police sent in a robot typically used to defuse bombs. instead, they used this one to detonate one, killing that suspect. in the end, five law enforcement

officials were killed. seven others were wounded along with two civilians. these are the heartbreaking scenes that have come to define the night as law enforcement officers gathered at dallas area hospitals earlier this morning, waiting for word on their brothers. befoalled an honor line and slowly raising their hands to salute the fallen as they were carried out. look at that image. we've got a lot of new information on what came before this shooting and what happened after. mark furman and brad authorize are here on what we're learning tonight about the suspect. reverend jesse jackson and david clark will explain what they think is fueling this fire. cell phone video taken from inside the building where the gunman launched his attack. this was filmed from inside the lobby. you will hear the gunshots ring out, and you'll see police in

pursuit of the gunman. watch. >> oh, my gosh. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> get back! [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> el centro college, downtown. [ bleep ]. >> show me your hands! show me your hands! >> my hands are good, sir. i'm a security, sir. [ bleep ]. >> here now is patrick cooper, the man who took that video. patrick, thank you so much for being here. what was your first reaction when you heard the danger come into the building that you were in? did you realize it was an active

shooter situation? >> at first i didn't know what to think. i thought this was, you know, firecrackers, fireworks going off. and everything just happened all at once. and my emotions were everywhere. i couldn't really think straight. the only thing i knew what to do was to -- because i didn't know if i was making it out today. i thought i was going to die in that building. after i started recording and i heard some gunshots, i knew it was real. i knew reality was sitting in, and i just had to get to safety. >> where did the suspect come from? >> i'm not for sure. i know -- i know from where i was at in the stairwell, it had to be from the main entrance on the -- on the right side of the 711 where the subway is. >> did you get to look at him? did you lay eyes on him? >> i couldn't get -- i couldn't get a real good image of him. i was trying to record him, but when i did, that's when i heard the gunshots. then it was just a whole bunch of -- a whole bunch of running. i seen a whole bunch of officers

coming in where i was at. first i thought i was the suspect because i was in the -- you know, i was right next to the staircase right where the suspect was running to. so at that time i just hurried up and slammed the door, got in the stall. a lady was trying to tell me, let's run out. let's run to safety. i was trying to tell her to keep calm because when we do that, we look like suspects, run out and being caught in the gunfire. so i just stayed where i was at, told her to keep calm, and that was really it. that's all we could do. >> when you finally left the building, what was the scene? did you realize people had been killed? >> i did, but when i left the scene, i could hear some gunfire. i could hear some gunfire on the opposite side of where i was at. so when i came out and i had all these guns in my fies, aace and didn't know what to do but follow directions, listen to what the cop was telling me to do. they searched me down, and nothing i could do. i had rifles pointed to my head, you know. all i could do was just

cooperate. >> right. they didn't know who you were, and you didn't know how you found yourself in that situation. patrick, thank you for sharing the video with us and your story. we're glad you're well. >> thank you. our next guest is reverend jeff hood. he was one of the organizers of the march and quickly condemned the shootings today. >> never in our wildest dreams would we have imagined that five police officers would be dead this morning. >> but critics were quick to point out that we were hearing a very different message from the reverend just a short time before the shots rang out last night. here is some of that. >> i'm going to channel an old preacher that i admire tremendously. jeremiah wright. and i'm going to say, goddamn white america. god damn white america. white america is a [ bleep ].

>> come on now. >> i'm sick of the bodies of black and brown people being slaughtered in our streets. >> jeff hood helped organize the rally in dallas and was a witness to the police shootings. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you for inviting me. >> do you have regret over those incendiary statements. i am not tying the shooter's behavior to them, but do you have regret over them now in the wake of what happened? >> yeah, i think obviously if i had to go and do it over again, i think i would have chose different words. these words, you know, were meant to illustrate some of the anger and the rage that was in that space. a lot of times when we're in those spaces there's a need to speak to what is being felt in that space. obviously what i was saying was that there needs to be an end to

white-controlled america. there needs to be an end to white dominance in america. that we have to come together as one america. and i hope that now after the shooting, as a day of, you know, turning to love, turning to justice, i pray that we will do that. >> do you think you'll change your rhetoric? you know, in those renamarks, y referred to the police as the enemy and told people they needed to get a fire under their back sides and do something. and, you know, there's incendiary rhetoric on both sides sometimes. but this kind of thing, in the wake of this slaughter, does that kind of language need to stop? >> you know, i think it's important that we talk about love and justice now. i mean, you know, and for me, you know, i want to definitely speak truth to power when it's

necessary. but i can't imagine anybody going through this and not examining not just their rhetoric but a lot of their lives. i mean we have got to find a way to get to justice and love. >> you understand when you condemn white america, you're talking about those white cops who got killed, who were standing there trying to protect your right to protest. and these cops down in dallas had nothing to do with those officer-involved shootings that became controversial. and, in fact, they had been tweeting out earlier in the night pictures of themselves with some of the protesters, standing for peace. so you understand when you condemn the full group like that, how damaging that can be? >> sure, and i think, you know, as far as i'm concerned, what i was condemning was the infrastructure of white dominance. and i think that we still have to have a conversation about that here in our country. i don't think there's any question about that. but, you know, obviously, you know, this loss of these five police officers is devastating.

you know, i am devastated. i feel like i haven't been able to stop weeping. and, you know, i want to do everything in my power to bring people together in justice and love. >> well, i know you were very close to the gunfire and had a major scare of your own, and for that i am sorry. but i appreciate you coming on and taking those tough questions tonight. all the best. >> thank you. >> you can just feel the tensions right now, can't you? you can just feel it. well, some folks now, because it's political season, are suggesting that donald trump is to blame for dallas. others say president obama is fueling a, quote, war on cops. reverend jesse jackson and sheriff david clark are both with us live next. plus we went digging and discovered that the shooter has troubling connections to some hate groups. according to many reports, including out of the l.a. times

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breaking tonight, we are learning frightening new details about this dallas gunman and what else he may have been planning after investigators searched his suburban dallas home today, carrying out bags of evidence including bomb-making materials and a bizarre personal journal. rick leventhal is live in dallas tonight just down the street from where the gunman ambushed police. >> reporter: megyn, the suspect had no criminal history. we know that he spent six years in the u.s. army reserves and was deployed to afghanistan. he was there from november 2013 through july 2014 with the 284th engineer company. no information that he trained as a sniper. in fact, he was a carpentry and masonry expert. but as you mentioned, when police searched his home, they say they found a journal of combat tactics, basically how to shoot and move. of course he told the hostage negotiator during a four-hour standoff that he was upset about recent police shootings and

wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. his profile picture on facebook was him in a da sheky with his fist raise in the air. and on the facebook page, the shooter identified himself as a black narcis all of these are listed by the southern poverty law center as hate groups. police did search his home. as you mentioned, they reportedly found more rifles and ammo, ballistic vests, and bomb-making materials in the home. so clearly it appears this was someone with a militant mind-set who made up his mind last night to go out and kill police officers, and unfortunately he was able to succeed at this goal before he was killed by that police robot, megyn. >> rick, thank you. we are also hearing chilling new warnings for police in louisiana tonight where an african-american man was killed in an altercation with police on

tuesday. the fbi saying multiple groups are calling for revenge now. the agency flagging one social media post reading, quote, baton rouge, purge, purge, starts july 9th at 12:00 a.m. rule one, must kill every police. over the last 48 hours, there have been a string of attacks on law enforcement in four different states, including texas. yesterday an african-american man opened fire on cops in tennessee. today, gunmen targeted police in georgia and missouri in attacked described as ambushes. mark fuhrman is a former lapd. brad thor is a "new york times" best selling author. this is so dark and so disturbing, and feels like it's escalating, mark. what are your thoughts? >> i think it is, megyn, and i think it fuels its own fire that really is kind of under the radar. it's kind of under journalism

and the written word and what is really -- what people are really willing to speak out about. there's an underground that we're going to have to deal with. and, you know, this shooting and all these shootings, we don't understand how they occurred. there's no flags like this suspect. there really wasn't any flags, yet the people that are the closest to him, they see the rage, and they see the anger and the escalation of it, and they know something's going to happen, yet they fail to come forward. >> well, speaking of the people who know the shooters, right, because this guy wasn't on the radar for anything like we saw in orlando. you know, the guy had been investigated by the fbi. not this guy. this is what the gunman's sister put up just a couple of days ago, the night before. white people have and will continue to kill us off. i for one think these cops need to get a taste of the life we now fear. it doesn't sound like somebody,

brad, who is prepared to turn in a potentially violent brother. >> no. and mark had it absolutely right. i would say that the fire is more like a fire that happens behind the drywall in your house, and you don't notice it's there until the house is completely going up in flames. and the big problem here is that we are not combating this absolute b.s. garbage out of black lives matter. president obama has let this go on far too long. the left and the democrats have basically sat on the sidelines and allowed these people to declare an all-out war on police, and it must stop immediately. >> there's been, you know, a big brush. a lot of these folks paint with a very big brush, mark, and they find a couple of shootings that are deeply problematic. there's no question we've seen that over the past year. and try to push a narrative that all cops are bad, and all cops are out to kill innocent young black men. >> well, megyn, we could have

done this for the last five decades, ten decades. you can always find something that doesn't look like justice was served one way or another, where somebody made a mistake, somebody was overzealous, somebody was overaggressive. if you're going to take this micromoment in the history of a city, a county, a state or a country and use that as a movement, you can never combat this. there's always going to be something. it's like having a perfect family. it doesn't exist. >> especially in the days of iphones,brad, and social media where, you know, every encounter gets caught on camera. it doesn't necessarily mean that it's happening more. it's getting -- >> no. >> -- getting caught on camera more. but the vast majority of police officers out there want to protect us and want to enforce the law and don't run around shooting innocent people. however, you don't hear that message forcefully brought by all the people in power. >> no, of course not. this ask the vulcanization of

the united states of america. this is a very, very dangerous road for us to go down. the police are great people by and large. every organization's got a couple in there that aren't good. we talk all the time about how the majority of the world's muslims are good, peaceful people. you know what, that same sort of stuff that the left pushes all the time, which that happens to be true, needs to be applied to our police officers as well. this absolutely cannot go on like this. you're not going to have anybody who wants to be a cop anymore. if we're going to demonize them like this, who's going to want this job? >> not only the demonization, but cops don't make a lot of money. you don't get into policing so you can get rich. now they're being disrespected and demonized. now even more than normal. they always put their lives on the line when they go out to do the job. they've got to worry about getting ambushed, getting shot in the head just because they're standing there protecting black lives matter protesters in this particular case. >> megyn, you can -- you can see

the way police officers are by looking at the fire department. it's a brotherhood. it's the same brotherhood. yet firemen, they have a different level in the community because they don't have to take any aggressive action on the community. they put out fires. they help people. well, police help people in a different way. they help people, in fact, thousands of people that they will never see, meet, or make contact with, they help every time they take a violent criminal off the street. but you have to be proactive enough to engage those suspects to get them off the street. when you demoralize a brotherhood like this, they are not going to just lay down and say, okay, we're going to do nothing. we're just going to lock ourselves up in the car. they're going to continue to do the work because they're cops. they love being cops. you're right, they're not there to make money. they're not making that much money. you could probably make more being a manager at a grocery store. >> mm-hmm. it's so hard to see what they go through and then, of course, you

see the other side, where there are some bad shootings and you understand the outrage. guys, great to see you. >> thank you, megyn. well, the reverend jesse jackson last night described dallas as a, quote, terror attack. he's here next on that. plus sheriff david clark will join us with what he calls a tale of two shootings as he compares the attack on a black church tot ambush of these dallas officers. then why won't the attorney general take our questions about the attack in dallas? we'll investigate that when we come back in moments. >> -- spike in police murders? l. tena lets you be you ♪ walter!nncr: scorching heat today, stay cool out there! stop suffering with hot ac - cool it yourself with a/c pro. in just 3 easy steps, enjoy the comfort of 2 times the cooling boosters

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see if you're eligible for 12 months free at mybreo.com. breaking tonight, we are hearing new questions from the department of justice tonight after five law enforcement officers are shot and killed. and the attorney general, the top law enforcement officer in the country, refuses to take questions at a media briefing earlier today. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge was there. she joins us live tonight from washington. >> reporter: megyn, the attorney general loretta lynch called for cooperation, not violence. >> and to all americans, i ask you, i implore you, do not let this week precipitate a new normal in this country. i ask you to turn to each other, not against each other as we move forward. >> reporter: according to data

from the officer down memorial page, the numbers are sobering. in 2015, 33 officers were killed, down from 42 the previous year. so far this year, there are 26 deaths, including dallas. that means 2016 is on track to surpass previous years. today the nation's top law enforcement officer did not engage with reporters. we were told a statement, no questions. but i tried. >> [ inaudible ] what do you believe explains the spike in police murders? >> reporter: what happened in dallas last night is all the more troubling because it reflects the distrust between the community and the officers charged to protect them a criminal defense attorney today said police feel under siege after multiple civil rights investigations launched by the justice department. >> police officers are worried when they're out there and when they may have to use force, whether or not they're going to

be second-guessed. why didn't she also announce that a civil rights investigation was going to be opened up into the texas shooting, where it appears that people were targeted on the basis of race? >> reporter: the associated press reports tonight that officers in tennessee, georgia, and missouri have been targeted since the killings in minnesota and louisiana, two officers were wounded. one critically, and tonight there was no comment from the justice department, megyn. >> catherine, thank you. well, it hasn't yet been 24 hours, not even a full day, and already some folks are dividing over who and what is to blame for the anger we saw in dallas. joining me now, the reverend jesse jackson of the rainbow push coalition. great to see you tonight. let's talk about this because, you know, there's been, you know, rhetoric. you and i talked about some things you said just the other night, dismissing these cops down in louisiana as racist. you called it a lynching, a murder even. and yet we've also seen some bad shootings, and we've seen, as a

black lives matter movement, of which this man was not a part, chants like pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. what do we want? dead cops. talk about your thoughts on the rhetoric and the need for responsibility on both sides. let's try this again. i'm trying to get his audio. i can see you speaking, sir. there we go. go ahead. >> all the condolences to the families and the philando castile family here in st. paul, minnesota, as well. secondly, that that act of terror last night had nothing to do with this travesty of the civil rights strug until our country. we strongly condemn in every way possible a planned attack to kill innocent people that happened to have been police. that has no place. i think there are a number of growing hate groups in our country, but more than hate groups, they have access to military weapons that are stronger than the police can carry. that's what makes them real dangerous. >> you know, i guess it's been made evident now that this guy

was part of some black nationalist group or black panther groups or a bunch of groups according to rick leventhal's reporting. >> there are a number of white hate groups all over the country, and they're heavily armed. >> so are we going to -- i mean do you believe we should have a law that denies access to anybody who's in a hate group to weapons? >> well, actually, you have to consider giving -- you have to weigh the relative strength or weakness of these groups. groups can have open and carry military assault weapons stronger than the police can carry. they can shoot up theaters and churches and shoot down airplanes. how can we fight a war against weapons of mass destruction and make them available to people on the street corners of our country. it's much too dangerous, megyn. >> i know you have called out some of the rhetoric we've heard from donald trump and some of his supporters. but are you willing to call out some of the rhetoric we've

heard, for example, the man who led our show tonight? he calls himself a reverend. he said he was out there last night saying, god damn white america. forgive me. that's what he was saying. i mean this kind of thing, if you're going to call it out on the one side, you got it call it out on all. >> well, that type language does not inform us. it does not inspire us. it does not help us. so we must be very disciplined in our rhetoric. even through our pain, we must have a rhetoric flow that lifts us up and not tears us down. i say that five people are dead and five police are dead in dallas tonight and seven are wounded. that is a critical situation. but blacks killed by police, we cannot get off that agenda. >> but now there's a pattern of cops being killed too, cops being ambushed. >> if you look at the number of -- the balance of it, far more cops are killing people.

but people should not be killing people. we need not get into an argument about who killed the most. we should stop the killing. easy access to high powered weapons is a danger to american security, and it does not make sense to be fighting wars against weapons of mass destruction while you can buy online weapons that can bring down airplanes. it's totally irrationale to me in the name of the second amendment. >> reverend jackson, great to see you. >> good to see, you ma'am. joining us now with more, david clark of the milwaukee county sheriff's office. you know, this is the message that we need to get guns out of the hands of folks like this. but this guy had no record. you know, he was a vet. he was an army vet. and i don't know. the rhetoric's bad, but i don't know that it caused this guy's behavior. >> megyn, i'm sorry, but i'm still trying to make sense out of that babble that was coming out of the mouth of jesse jackson. he's talking about surface to air missiles.

those aren't on the streets in the united states of america. that was -- that was a pathetic display of what he did. but look at the situation that we face right now. we have some very irresponsible rhetoric coming from some very powerful people. it is time for this nation to stand up with one voice and to condemn and shun this movement called black lives matter. i would like to see the southern poverty law center place black lives matter alongside those other hate groups that were mentioned. these black nationalist groups, the black panther party, the nation of islam. it doesn't mean that those organizations will go away because they're on that list. but what happens is people start to delegitimize these movements and marginalize them. this movement needs to be marginalized. we have looked at this you it. we have peeled back the layers. we've looked at the data. we've looked at the research. none of their false narrative about the use of force, about the american police officer can be proved. none of it. so it is --

>> how would that have helped this because this guy was -- >> it is time for -- he said according to the chief down there, chief brown, he was doing this in the name of black lives matter. he said he wanted to -- >> the language was a little different than that. he did say the latter. >> it is time for the liberal mainstream media, "the new york times" editorial board, the cnn, msnbc to stop walking on eggshells and giving legitimacy to these rants, to all this false narrative coming out of this black lives matter movement. once we do that and marginalize this group, then we can go about all the work. i listened to loretta lynch today. that was a great political statement but nothing else. i don't need to be lectured to her about what we should or shouldn't do after this. i think she should have taken questions. whenever you have an incident like this, somebody -- somebody -- the chief down there is doing a fabulous job of keeping the public informed. she came out. she intermingled this thing with some, you know, gun control,

this, that, and just, you know, took off. that was irresponsible. >> yeah. >> so once -- you know, the rhetoric i don't think is going to go away. but we need to delegitimize this black lives matter movement. we've had enough of their nonsense. >> i appreciate you being here. >> thank you, megyn. >> think about that situation, where somebody was chanting god d black america, you know? how would that be perceived? we are watching here a showdown now between a small group of protesters and police in baton rouge, louisiana. remember this is where one of the incidents took place. we reported earlier about new fbi warnings that the police could be targeted here. the tensions are running high. this is where a black man was shot and killed by police earlier this week. plus dana lash and eric guster are here to discuss the almost instant cry for gun control in the wake of the dallas attack. that's next. >> we have too many guns. it's been too much violence.

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again we are watching live pictures tonight out of baton rouge, louisiana, with a line of police appears to be moving forward on what looks like a highway as some of the protesters appear to be getting a little rowdy. these cops, you can see in their regular uniforms. we saw some with the shields going forward moments earlier. they want the protesters to get out of the area in which they now stand. and yet we don't see anything. we see police walk forward into this crowd, where we see media, and then we don't see protesters on the other side. however, we're told they're there and they need to clear the area. tensions have been running high down there since earlier this week, a black man was shot and killed outside of a store by police. one of the two shootings that has led to protests this week. while we watch the situation in baton rouge, i want to bring in dana lash, who is the author of the new book flyover nation.

and attorney eric guster. you know, we've heard it. just today, the members of the congressional black caucus came out and called for legislation curbing gun violence. you heard jesse jackson say it, dana. we've heard it every time there's been a shooting in the country. they want to curb the guns. your thoughts? >> i think we need to curb some of the rhetoric we're hearing from some advocates and act visits, some lobbyists and some elected officials. that's what we need to curb. you know what, when you hear about -- megyn, when you hear about gun rights and advocacy for gun rights, i'm going to say something. it's not the nra that's been using rhetoric to cut down police officers and to speak of them and denigrate them publicly the way that has been done by a lot of these activists and dare i say black lives matter activists as well. it hasn't been law abiding gun owners chanting in the streets, pigs in a blanket, fry them like bac bacon. we have a lot of our elected officials and i dare say even the president of the united states that has led the direction because where leaders lead, followers follow. we need to see real leadership.

we need to see people minding their tongues and not speaking to division. this has nothing to do with gun rights. this has nothing to do with the second amendment. this has everything to do with people being sick in the heart, sick in the head, and just wanting to do evil for evil's sake. >> this guy was obviously very disturbed, left behind a manifesto. the police chief down there this guy was not right. i want to get you to respond this, eric. hold on we have a live report from baton rouge. go ahead, jonathan. >> reporter: hi there. right now we have a tense standoff between police and protesters. up to this point, all of the protests had been relatively uneventful. they had been peaceful. very little police presence out at the protests that were going on earlier this week at the convenience store, the scene of a police-involved shooting in the early morning hours of tuesday. but then today the protesters decide to go directly to the police, protesting across the street from the police

department here, police headquarters in baton rouge. and the police were fine with that as long as they stayed on the curb. but at several times, the protesters decided to walk across airport highway, blocking traffic. the police would send in officers, pushing them back onto the curb. but as we go into the evening, the protests have become more and more heated. the protesters have been yelling taunts at the police. earlier they were throwing plastic water bottles at police. and then just a few minutes ago, someone threw a glass bottle into the road. and so now you have this -- essentially this phalanx of police here facing the crowd, trying to keep them off the highway and the demonstrations continue. back to you. >> jonathan, thank you. we're going to continue to watch this. let's keep the camera up so we can see what's happening. eric, there's a threat against the cops' lives in louisiana tonight, specific threat calling

for them to be executed. this thing is ratcheting up. >> and we shouldn't have any threats against cops. we shouldn't have any threats against president obama like former congressman walsh made on twitter just this morning. those are the types of things that we simply don't need in our country. just like dana said, we're depending on our leaders to make great decisions. and people like walsh, who are saying this is going to be a race war, and he's actually stoking those fires, not even stoking them, megyn. he's actually throwing gasoline on a campfire. that's what we don't need. but it -- >> you heard some of the rhetoric earlier this week. i just talked about it with reverend jackson. he was calling those cops -- he said they're guilty of a lynching and saying they were racist before all the facts were in. that doesn't help either. >> but just like we discussed before, we're talking about statistics, and statistics don't lie. >> statistics don't tell you these cops are racist and what's in their heart. >> in reference to african-american men being shot at the hands of police officers.

and it's just simply a fact, megyn, that you -- >> that's like looking at this black man who shot these cops last night and saying all blacks want to kill white cops. >> and i never said that. please don't put words in my mouth. >> i'm not saying you did. but the generalizations get us into trouble. >> exactly. >> that's why i'm making sure that words are not put into my mouth. i didn't disrupt you. >> go ahead, dana. >> no. >> let her finish. >> washington post compiled data from 2015, megyn, that showed whites are actually killed by police and whites and hispanics suffer more by police homicides than black americans do. those are statistics. [ overlapping voices ] >> as i recall the data, it is true that more whites are killed by blacks than -- >> that is correct. >> but as a percentage of the population. >> i thought she mentioned police officers. we're talking police officer killings. african-americans are two times as likely to be shot by police,

and that's a fact. >> actually whites are. whites and hispanics. we'll have to disagree on that. >> listen, i am hoping that i don't -- stand by. we had eric here all last night because we watched such a terrible situation in dallas, which is dana's hometown by the way. let's hope things stay in control down there in baton rouge and everyone is -- they're passionate but respectful. we'll be right back. for this d. and i'm still not ready. the reason i'm telling you this is that there will be moments in your life that... you'll never be ready for. your little girl getting married being one of them. ♪ ♪

in 2014, the city of ferguson missouri erupted in protests after the shooting death of michael brown. nfl player watched and channels his emotions in a thought provoking facebook post that tacked the issues of race, injustice and faith. now he's offering words of healing in response to a new wave of divisiveness. benjamin watson is my guest now. he's the author of "under our skin." thank you so much for being here. i know that you wrote in the book that few people -- white people in particular, have no idea of the fear that black people feel toward the police. >> yes. yes. it's a very real fear, and i think that's why you're seeing such passionate outcry. this is something that has happened over and over again, and as a black man in america, you wonder when are things going to change. and i think that's why you see the protest easy. that's why you see the yelling and the screaming. i think it's important that we are able to put ourselves in

someone else's shoes. i may not ever understand -- i won't understand what it's like to be black. you won't understand what it's like to be me. can you let your guard down? can you listen to my story? that's all we want to hear. but where we are now, we're simply turning away. i'm sitting here listening to the bickering back and forth and the rhetoric of people on your show, and it's really making me upset because no one is listening to each other. i'm sitting here thinking that we all need a change of heart. and i wrote about it in my heart. but that change only comes when we're able to see people the god sees people and it only happens through the blood of his son. >> i've had so little time since we've had breaking news tonight. i'll give you the last word. >> the last word is this. i'm never in favor of violent protests. but we need to turn to loving each other. we need to listen to each other. we need to reach out to each other. >> amen. thank you for being here. benjamin watson. we'll be right back. the makers of miralax.

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among the fall 911 dallas, a newlywed, father, a veteran. we thank them for their service. we mourn them. thank you for watching, everyone. i'm megyn kelly. our coverage continues now with sean hannity. thanks, megyn, this is a fox news alert. new details about the gunman who brutally killed five police officers and wounded seven others last night in dallas. more on that in just a few minutes. first protesters are facing off with police in baton rouge, louisiana. tensions are high after a man was killed by police on tuesday. tonight, on the ground with the very latest, is our own jonathan sayrery. jonathan. >> reporter: hi, sean. right now i'm standing on airline highway which is closed down because of the protest you see going on behind me. the protesters moved to this area because this is the location of police headquarters here in baton rouge. they wanted to confront the police directly. now, there is a division among the